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Life is contradiction. In the same night I interacted online with two friends fighting horrid, deep personal fears, and I have to conclude I handled one of them pretty much exactly right and the other exactly wrong.

The success was one of my oldest, dearest friends, terrified by upcoming dental work. I offered sympathy, friendly words, a place in my (virtual) lap, shared one of the things I'm so afraid of the thought can bring me to the brink of vomiting, and all was about as well as could be.

The failure was still an old friend and someone I like greatly, terrified of being labeled a freak. As a result he tries to hide everything non-generic about him, to the point that one night he refused to say what he in-character liked to eat. The glimpses of the real him are fascinating enough I keep trying to draw him out, and more than once this has degenerated into a furious cross-examination.

I know, every single time we have this fight -- that's what it feels like, anyway -- that I'm treating him wrong. People who complain of problems don't want solutions first and foremost; they want sympathy first. I know that, and the first experience above shows I know it. You can't reason a person out of the things which terrify them; a phobia is by definition irrational. I know that too and I proved that to myself above again.

I'm mystified that I treated the one friend in a way I'm confident was right, and another I'm sure was wrong, within hours of one another. Part of it's the difference in how well I understand both of them, sure. Some of it's that a fear of dental work is mostly irrelevant. So what if you are scared? It's something you encounter only a few days in a decade at most -- your life's not much better or worse if you have the fear or are cured. But the fear of showing real personality drags a person down daily. Somehow I've trapped myself into thinking it's urgent I help cure him, which I can't do online, and know I can't do, and which isn't my place to try unless he wants me to help fix him. One of the other things I know and keep stupidly forgetting is that I don't know enough about other people's lives to try fixing them, and they're justified in resenting my efforts however foolishly well-intentioned.

And yet virtually every day I see the second friend, and I try doing something ``good'' for him that ends with him running off to a private room and apologizing for what is plainly my bad sense.

The cold finally got my temperature up to a whopping 37.1 Celsius, by the way, and if it's not feeling better yet at least I'm more functional.

Trivia: The curve, including spirals near the North and South pole, which one traces out on the globe by following a constant compass direction (a path which is a straight line on a Mercator map) is known as a loxodrome. Source: Mathematics in Civilization, H. L. Resnikoff and R.O. Wells Junior.

Currently Reading: Shakespeare's Kings: The great plays and the history of England in the Middle Ages, 1337-1485, John Julius Norwich. Almost done. I bet the answer is Henry Bolingbroke did it.

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Date: 2004-02-06 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blither.livejournal.com
It's a very difficult thing to see a friend in pain.

You already know the answer to this (if there really is one)a person cannot change unless he wants to change. Now, by that I don't mean someone can suddenly wake up and everything will be peachy keen, though I don't doubt that such things occur; what I mean is that there has to be some desire to change -something-, some effort...otherwise, all the talking and shoulders in the world aren't really going to make a difference.

I've had this conversation before, possibly over just the friend that you are speaking of, and I've been labeled harsh. That label may well be true, but my experience has been that furthering codependence does -nothing- good for anyone. Not for me, not for the friend I am trying to help. So. I take a step back. If that friend needs help in getting somewhere of his own choosing, I will be there in a second. Otherwise, I'll continue to hope for the best for him and leave it at that.

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Date: 2004-02-07 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] austin-dern.livejournal.com
And you're right, of course. In my better moments I even know you're right and act accordingly. With some of the friends who have problems that consist of needing to change the way they act, I'm able to sit back quietly, assure them I'm there when they're ready, and wait for them.

If you overlook the tone that sets of the patient master waiting for the foolish student to go off and learn the hard way before submitting to my stern glare -- and I try not to glare that sternly, though I probably overdo that as well -- it's generally more satisfying all around. I don't have the anxiety, the friend isn't the poor native living it up under the red coati's burden, and there's less shouting on everyone's parts.

I just don't know why I can be smart with some people and stupid with others.

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