One of the things I talked about with my sister-in-law was a fresh horror I'd discovered in watching Rudolph, The Red-Nosed Reindeer, the Rankin-Bass take, this year. Rankin-Bass specials are surprisingly fertile nightmare fuel, considering what warm nostalgia they induce in people, but when you actually get to looking at them ... well. Here's one I hadn't noticed before.
In the tag, Santa returns to the Island of Misfit Toys, picks them up, and brings them to promising new homes. This is shown under the closing credits with a toy squirming out of the bag, and one of the elves giving him an umbrella, and helping him jump overboard to float down to wherever his new home is. There's the spotted elephant, cute, and then, aw, the bird comes out and the elf starts giving the umbrella, then shakes his head, and tosses the bird overboard. Cute and funny, right?
Except. Why was the bird doll on the Island of Misfit Toys?
Because it was a bird that couldn't fly!
It was one that swam, not flew. So it logically plummeted to horrible death.
You might say maybe they weren't that high up? No, they're shown, just above, the cloud cover, and it's on a night of the most horrible weather in years. Above water, so it could swim? What kid has a home in the water?
My sister-in-law was suitably horrified, the moreseo because she's been noticing how many horrible things lurk not so far under the surface of many of the classic Christmas specials. A Charlie Brown Christmas particularly worried her as everyone was so horrible to each other in it. Her daughter wasn't so worried. I do like, though, that there are all these rough edges in the older generation of Christmas specials; newer ones just feel so thoroughly thought-out there's no room to notice things that shock you later. Good stuff often has a few jagged edges.
Trivia: Max Fleischer produced the 1944 cartoon version of Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer for the Jam Handy organization of Detroit. Source: The Fleischer Story, Leslie Cabarga. Come to think of it, I still wonder why Jam Handy, which mostly made educational films, did a purely entertainment cartoon. Who did they figure to sell it to?
Currently Reading: The Zipper: An Exploration In Novelty, Robert Friedel. And, against my expectations, the tailor/cobbler at the mall was so able to fix my broken zipper tab. But she warned the zipper, not just the tabs, would likely break soon, so be careful.
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Date: 2011-12-27 07:23 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-28 03:56 am (UTC)It's worth seeing, I think. Even with the shocking moments and the other stuff that doesn't quite make sense. (How did Rudolph track his parents and Clarice to the Abominable Snow Monster's lair?)
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Date: 2011-12-28 06:08 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:14 am (UTC)Ah ... I'd be surprised if the relative ages worked out.
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Date: 2011-12-27 07:39 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-28 04:01 am (UTC)That's optimistic, but I think we have to rule it out on the grounds that he wouldn't have been grabbed by the griffin king as an unwanted toy if he had flown, and he'd have to know that a little flying would keep him away from that perilous fate.
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Date: 2011-12-28 06:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:20 am (UTC)Probably it would go well enough on an island, but if everything's going into the water to wash ashore, why were the umbrellas given to the other gifts dropped off mere seconds earlier and no more capable of flight than the bird was?
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Date: 2011-12-27 10:50 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-27 09:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-27 10:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-28 04:11 am (UTC)Santa's a prime jerk in the start, yes --- there must be a SantaDickery site to compete with Superman's personality disorders --- but he, like the rest, gets awfully ashamed of his part in driving Rudolph off and talks about wanting him and Herbie back before it's realized Rudolph's nose is useful. The rest of the reindeer and elves seem ashamed too; it's like they didn't realize they were being utterly horrible people until five people's lives were at stake. That order does also soften the ``you should be nice to the freaks because in weird circumstances they might have economic value'' moral to something nearer to ``you should be nice because you hurt people when you're not''.
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Date: 2011-12-28 05:51 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:22 am (UTC)If we go by the specials, every year is a bad year for Santa. Sally Forth, whose author's thoughts on this have been mentioned below, (http://content.comicskingdom.net/Sally_Forth/Sally_Forth.20111218.gif) described it pretty sharply on the 18th of December.
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:46 am (UTC)I had, through elementary school, good interactions with other kids. I think the worst I ever suffered at my classmates' hands was being told I laughed too much, which, as the cruelty of children goes, doesn't rate.
Middle school, that was unlimited horrors, but I can't be sure whether that was my being the new kid in class or whether it's just middle school is a deranged psychotic nightmare state.
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Date: 2011-12-28 10:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:35 am (UTC)I haven't noticed them particularly separated around here, at least not more than any other class of school is.
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Date: 2011-12-30 11:09 am (UTC)When I first came here in the second grade I was mystified by the fact that our school had two recess areas: separate but equal. These weren't along racial lines but gender. Unlike Schenectady, little girls weren't allowed to play with little boys on the playground equipment.
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Date: 2011-12-28 05:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:36 am (UTC)Yeah, that's got to be a big part of the problem.
Still, if elementary school is basically decent, what happens at the middle school threshold to turn so many experiences into horrible ones?
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:31 am (UTC)Starting out, the obsession of the adult reindeer to cover up Rudolph's freak nature is so over-the-top it reads like a parody of 50s Conformism. Now that I have a better understanding of the social mores of the time I'm ... still not sure if it's exaggeration or not.
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Date: 2011-12-28 05:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 05:11 am (UTC)It was very important in the 50s that everyone think and act the same way. How else were we to withstand the thought controls of Communism?
Less glibly, I wonder how much of the must-conform-more mindset came from the not superficially implausible reasoning that there must be a most efficient way to do anything, and therefore, what's the point of doing anything any other way for any reason, therefore, everyone must do things the same way.
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Date: 2011-12-30 05:09 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-27 11:07 am (UTC)Anyway, yes, I remember that now. I suspect it was a story writing/editing error. It wouldn't be the first such film with one. And, yes, that is awful.
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:04 am (UTC)It was just a story editing error, and I suspect I know why: the tag of Santa returning to the Island of Misfit Toys was not in the original broadcast version; that thread just got forgotten about. After audiences complained Rankin/Bass filmed the new happy ending, and I don't doubt that in the time between the original and filming the tag --- you'll notice Santa doesn't say anything on the Island of Misfit Toys that he didn't say earlier --- they found the models but forgot what each of them was on the Island for.
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Date: 2011-12-27 01:09 pm (UTC)On a newew DVD, I saw scenes I didn't recall from the VHS. One that stood out was Hermie/Herbie making a snowman of his boss during the "Misfit Song" and then pummeling it. Odd.
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:18 am (UTC)The dropping out of the sleigh, unwrapped, seems lackadaisical, but it does make the sense of going to a new place more fun, I think. Wouldn't you like to float into places on an umbrella?
There have been a surprising number of variant scenes between the original airing, later airings, VHS, and DVD. It's hard to pin down a perfectly canonical storyline.
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Date: 2011-12-27 01:22 pm (UTC):-)
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:19 am (UTC)Oh, no. It's just startling to come across a gritty bit.
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Date: 2011-12-27 03:23 pm (UTC)http://mediumlarge.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/kid-reaction-to-misfit-toys-complete.jpg
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:20 am (UTC)I'd not seen that one before! Thank you. Silly stuff.
However, I think the jelly gun and the spotted elephant would be winners among any kids I ever heard of.
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Date: 2011-12-27 10:28 pm (UTC)liake ann olde kan lid. sharpe, withe tetinss!
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:22 am (UTC)Hey, you never forget the tetanus shots. If I remember schoolyard lore correctly, they're injected into the stomach directly using an 18-inch-long needle.
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Date: 2011-12-28 10:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-27 10:35 pm (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlfBz6kAJd8
I have a vivid memory of seeing this and being struck with utter horror, then running downstairs to where my father was doing something in his workshop area in the basement and sobbing as I tried to tell him what was wrong. Then my mother came home, from the store or something, and my father tried to explain to her what was wrong with me: "Something about someone being turned into a tree."
I didn't see that one again until I was about 30, and I discovered that it still disturbed me.
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:25 am (UTC)Oh, wow.
That's one of the specials I had forgotten. The turning-into-a-tree has got kind of a fairy tale resolution to it (is it really worse than the Wicked Witch of the West melting?) but it's also one that'll burn deep in the memory, if it hits the right way.
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Date: 2011-12-28 06:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 04:54 am (UTC)Mm. Yeah, the hand breaking is a bit too much. And looking at it again I suppose he does turn into a dead tree; somehow, turning into a live tree feels to me like it'd be preferable. But I guess that could be a more horrifying fate because of the long-term helplessness of it. (I suppose if a tree were conscious it wouldn't think it moved so very slowly.)
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Date: 2011-12-28 04:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 04:57 am (UTC)Gotta say, that is going out with some flair.
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Date: 2011-12-28 07:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-28 10:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 04:56 am (UTC)You know he was two of the four Beatles, for their Saturday morning cartoon, right? Also at least one of the Marx Brothers in their stop-motion-animated appearance.
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Date: 2011-12-29 07:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-30 04:56 am (UTC)I had forgotten it, but I think that's because it aired so few times in original incarnation.